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Oh please let this story be true

Posted by direwolff on November 3, 2006

My title starts with a little bad karma (if you’ll pardon the expression), but something about the sort of extreme positions that evangelicals take and try to impose on the rest of our society, that just makes me hope that for Christmas we get to see more of them exposed for the hypocrites they really are. I truly respect all people’s religions as a matter of personal choice, but when they make choices that seek to impose their belief systems on my life through influence in government and social policy, then it moves out of the spiritual realm and into something quite different for which I have no respect. Unfortunately, in the case of evangelicals, their positions rest on over-simplifying morality by trying to create a right vs. wrong dichotomy (you know the one, “you either with us or against us”), which is unsuitable for the complexities of today’s world. For every one of the Ten Commandments, there are exceptions that are necessary and reflected in the meaning of these guidelines rather than in their literal rendition, to help us live peacefully with others in this world. Whether it be fundamentalist Christians, Muslims or what have you, extremism of any sort is not inclusive nor will it help solve the challenges of living together on this planet.

Hopefully, this story that has only recently broken about Pastor Ted Haggard is true so that he can be shown to have followed in the footsteps of Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker, Jimmy Swaggart, and the host of other evangelical hypocrites whose deeds never follow their words, but only reflect their need to tell others how to live their lives irrespective of how these pastors live theirs. Ironically, many of these so-called pastors are themselves the founders of these minitries of extremism. I know I’m out of touch when I can’t understand who and why any one would be so gullible as to join these ministries, and yet they’re all pretty damn big.

And so the story goes..

Haggard Admits Some ‘Indiscretion,’ Says Fellow Pastor

Major Evangelical Accused Of Paying Former Gay Prostitute For Sex

ABCNews By Dan Harris

– The president of the National Association of Evangelicals, who has resigned amid allegations that he had sex with a former self-described male prostitute, is now admitting to some indiscretions after initial denials, according to the acting senior pastor of the New Life Church in Colorado.

*** 11/3/06 UPDATE (later in the day)*** OK, so it looks like things are getting better here, it turns out this guy counsels our fine (soon to be tarred and feathered) president…


Pastor Who Resigned over Gay Hooker Claims Is Bush’s ‘Spiritual Consigliere‘

Rev. Ted Haggard, who counsels Pres. Bush on a weekly basis and has been called his spiritual consigliere,” resigned today as president of the National Association of Evangelicals and as pastor of the megachurch he founded in Colorado Springs because a gay prosititute says he’s been having sex for pay with Haggard for more than three years.

I think it’s getting clear that God is pissed off and is now doing something about it.

*** 11/3/06 UPDATE (a lil’ later than the previous update)*** Oh-oh, looks like now he’s admitting getting a massage. By tomorrow morning he’ll have admitted to having had sex with two male prostitutes. I hope our administration learns something from this, you don’t need torture to get the confession.

Minister Admits to Buying Drugs and Massage

By Alan Cooperman

Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, November 4, 2006; Page A02

The Rev. Ted Haggard, the Colorado minister who resigned Thursday as president of the National Association of Evangelicals, admitted yesterday that he bought methamphetamine and received a massage from a male prostitute.

*** 11/5/06 UPDATE*** Looks like’s totally breaking down now given this admission to a “lifelong sexual problem”. He still doesn’t get it, his problem isn’t sexual it’s hypocrisy and not being able to come to terms with who he is. Being gay isn’t a sexual problem, but lying, preaching against gay people, and deciding that a person’s morality is dictated by their sexual predilection is (allow me to use an evangelical favorite term) evil incarnate. Projecting oneself as greater and more moral than thou is a problem. Starting a church with principles you are not prepared to live by is a problem. Taking meth is a problem. Living a life of deception to even his wife is a problem. Having sex with men is not the problem. Sadly, I don’t really think he learned anything from all of this, or if he did, it appears to be the wrong thing and the lies continue.  As my wife put it, saying he’s had a lifelong sexual problem shows that “he’s still not taking responsibility for his actions”.

Haggard confesses to ‘lifelong’ sexual problem

POSTED: 12:40 p.m. EST, November 5, 2006

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colorado (CNN) — Evangelical pastor Ted Haggard confessed on Sunday to a “lifelong” sexual problem, and said he was “a deceiver and a liar,” in a letter read to his New Life Church.

“There is part of my life that is so repulsive and dark that I have been warring against it all my life,” he said in the letter.

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